Comments on: And then ‘Geldof Exploded’ http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/ Life should be full of strangeness, like a rich painting Thu, 23 May 2013 22:42:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Donagh http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78580 Donagh Mon, 21 May 2012 15:12:22 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78580 Indeed, when some poorly paid scribe is writing the lives of the latter-day "rocker saints" in a cramped cubical for the likes of the Mother Geldof he will no doubt record that St. Bono was only ever capable of performing one miracle - turning musical dross into mountains of cash. Indeed, when some poorly paid scribe is writing the lives of the latter-day “rocker saints” in a cramped cubical for the likes of the Mother Geldof he will no doubt record that St. Bono was only ever capable of performing one miracle - turning musical dross into mountains of cash.

]]> By: Northside Socialist http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78579 Northside Socialist Mon, 21 May 2012 14:24:32 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78579 "Does he heal them when they are sick? Does he hold his healing hands over their children’s broken limbs when they fall from a tree?" I suspect he may ask that other philanthropic, spoofer St. Bono of Finglas/Ballymun/Killiney (delete location as appropriate) to carry out any required miracles. “Does he heal them when they are sick? Does he hold his healing hands over their children’s broken limbs when they fall from a tree?”

I suspect he may ask that other philanthropic, spoofer St. Bono of Finglas/Ballymun/Killiney (delete location as appropriate) to carry out any required miracles.

]]> By: Sara http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78578 Sara Mon, 21 May 2012 14:14:35 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78578 Sir Bob pay tax! As a non-dom he pays the grand sum of £30,000 per annum plus taxes on UK earnings (which via creative accountancy is probably zilch). And don't forget that other habitual tax evader Bono who is set to become the "world's richest musician" on the back of the Facebook IPO: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/bono-facebook-u2-singer-worlds-richest-musician_n_1526972.html A beautiful day indeed. Sir Bob pay tax! As a non-dom he pays the grand sum of £30,000 per annum plus taxes on UK earnings (which via creative accountancy is probably zilch). And don’t forget that other habitual tax evader Bono who is set to become the “world’s richest musician” on the back of the Facebook IPO: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/bono-facebook-u2-singer-worlds-richest-musician_n_1526972.html A beautiful day indeed.

]]> By: lefty http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78464 lefty Fri, 18 May 2012 03:30:37 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78464 well at least Lucy bannermann did not finance and help corrupt african government officials to buy arms which were used to kill lots of other poor africans. Bob should just get off that high horse of his and pay his taxes. well at least Lucy bannermann did not finance and help corrupt african government officials to buy arms which were used to kill lots of other poor africans. Bob should just get off that high horse of his and pay his taxes.

]]> By: John Gallen http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78451 John Gallen Thu, 17 May 2012 15:03:13 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78451 "My time? Is that not a tax?" ....oh, good grief the man has lost all sense of reality altogether with a statement like that. “My time? Is that not a tax?” ….oh, good grief the man has lost all sense of reality altogether with a statement like that.

]]> By: Donagh http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78450 Donagh Thu, 17 May 2012 12:26:53 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78450 Well there is one argument that is always ignored by those who seem to think that they have some form of 'magic' that makes them capable of creating jobs out of nothing and that tax is a gift which they may or may not choose to pay to the state. It is this. The state chooses to allow them the opportunity to set up business in the first place. It allows them to own property and to trade, create 'value' and earn a profit. Geldof earned money in the UK because the UK government provided the conditions to do that. However, this is not a one way deal. Part of that agreement is that a certain portion of what his business earns returns to the state so that the UK government can maintain those conditions for creating business etc for others. Did Geldof educate these employees of his - sometimes to third and fourth level? Does he heal them when they are sick? Does he hold his healing hands over their children's broken limbs when they fall from a tree? Does he pay to get them to work, or provide advice and information for them when they need to know things to help them survive? When Geldof avoids tax he is reneging on the deal that allowed him to establish a business in the first place and to earn millions from the profits of that business. The money that should be paid in tax is not his to hold on to or make arrangements to avoid paying - its not his in the first place. The fucker is stealing that money. If it is only about creating jobs and generating tax from their income the government could that without needing people like Geldof to borrow money to lease office space and employ people and earn a profit from what he borrowed. Well there is one argument that is always ignored by those who seem to think that they have some form of ‘magic’ that makes them capable of creating jobs out of nothing and that tax is a gift which they may or may not choose to pay to the state. It is this. The state chooses to allow them the opportunity to set up business in the first place. It allows them to own property and to trade, create ‘value’ and earn a profit.

Geldof earned money in the UK because the UK government provided the conditions to do that. However, this is not a one way deal. Part of that agreement is that a certain portion of what his business earns returns to the state so that the UK government can maintain those conditions for creating business etc for others. Did Geldof educate these employees of his - sometimes to third and fourth level? Does he heal them when they are sick? Does he hold his healing hands over their children’s broken limbs when they fall from a tree? Does he pay to get them to work, or provide advice and information for them when they need to know things to help them survive?

When Geldof avoids tax he is reneging on the deal that allowed him to establish a business in the first place and to earn millions from the profits of that business. The money that should be paid in tax is not his to hold on to or make arrangements to avoid paying - its not his in the first place. The fucker is stealing that money. If it is only about creating jobs and generating tax from their income the government could that without needing people like Geldof to borrow money to lease office space and employ people and earn a profit from what he borrowed.

]]> By: LeftAtTheCross http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78449 LeftAtTheCross Thu, 17 May 2012 11:46:18 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2012/05/17/and-then-bob-geldof-exploded/#comment-78449 I don't know how many times I've heard that argument from the wealthy that they've created jobs and that those salaries have paid taxes. As though that gives them a free pass not to pay tax on their own income, as though the tax paid by their employees is actually part of the business owner's tax liability and a cost to the business paid from the profits of the business rather than part of the social contract between the employee as citizen and the state. In Geldof's case not so much the entrepreneur/businessman as the businessman /philanthropist, but with that same sense of gifting his contribution to society rather than recognising it as a binding responsibility. I don’t know how many times I’ve heard that argument from the wealthy that they’ve created jobs and that those salaries have paid taxes. As though that gives them a free pass not to pay tax on their own income, as though the tax paid by their employees is actually part of the business owner’s tax liability and a cost to the business paid from the profits of the business rather than part of the social contract between the employee as citizen and the state. In Geldof’s case not so much the entrepreneur/businessman as the businessman /philanthropist, but with that same sense of gifting his contribution to society rather than recognising it as a binding responsibility.

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