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	<title>Comments on: FOREIGN INDUSTRIAL EMPLOYMENT IN IRELAND, 1983-2006</title>
	<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2011/08/20/foreign-industrial-employment-in-ireland-1983-2006/</link>
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		<title>By: Conor McCabe</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2011/08/20/foreign-industrial-employment-in-ireland-1983-2006/#comment-77328</link>
		<author>Conor McCabe</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tomboktu</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2011/08/20/foreign-industrial-employment-in-ireland-1983-2006/#comment-77327</link>
		<author>Tomboktu</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey. One state agency cites another but the number is not in the other agency's report. Wonder will the likes of the Irish Times explore the fictional official figures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey. One state agency cites another but the number is not in the other agency&#8217;s report. Wonder will the likes of the Irish Times explore the fictional official figures?</p>
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		<title>By: Conor McCabe</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2011/08/20/foreign-industrial-employment-in-ireland-1983-2006/#comment-77314</link>
		<author>Conor McCabe</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No they don't. The IDA in its 2010 annual report says that 100,000 people are employed indirectly because of FDI- however, it cites the Forfás annual employment survey 2010 for that figure, but no such figure exists in that report. 

The IDA claims that FDIs spent around 10.4 billion on irish materials and services in 2009 - 1.8 billion on materials and 8.6 billion on services - but no further breakdown of what these services actually were is given. Accounting and banking may charge millions for their services, but those millions can relate to a relatively low number of people. The same goes with the figures for R&#038;D, which are bolstered in Ireland because of the tax breaks available for R&#038;D - accounting exercises for tax avoidance purposes. Michael Burke has covered this in detail on progressive economy.

Having said all that, the point I'm making here is that employment by way of industrial FDI has remained essentially static for almost 30 years. The argument usually put forward that growth in industrial FDI in the late 1980s led to the celtic tiger and jobs growth is pretty much baloney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No they don&#8217;t. The IDA in its 2010 annual report says that 100,000 people are employed indirectly because of FDI- however, it cites the Forfás annual employment survey 2010 for that figure, but no such figure exists in that report. </p>
<p>The IDA claims that FDIs spent around 10.4 billion on irish materials and services in 2009 - 1.8 billion on materials and 8.6 billion on services - but no further breakdown of what these services actually were is given. Accounting and banking may charge millions for their services, but those millions can relate to a relatively low number of people. The same goes with the figures for R&#038;D, which are bolstered in Ireland because of the tax breaks available for R&#038;D - accounting exercises for tax avoidance purposes. Michael Burke has covered this in detail on progressive economy.</p>
<p>Having said all that, the point I&#8217;m making here is that employment by way of industrial FDI has remained essentially static for almost 30 years. The argument usually put forward that growth in industrial FDI in the late 1980s led to the celtic tiger and jobs growth is pretty much baloney.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomboktu</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2011/08/20/foreign-industrial-employment-in-ireland-1983-2006/#comment-77312</link>
		<author>Tomboktu</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 23:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the statistics allow you to separate out employment in Irish firms that supply materials, components, services, etc., to foreign-owned firms?

I recall circa the mid or late 1980s that the IDA's line at the time was that we should seek/see added value through supplying the incoming companies with more than the labour they needed.</description>
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<p>I recall circa the mid or late 1980s that the IDA&#8217;s line at the time was that we should seek/see added value through supplying the incoming companies with more than the labour they needed.</p>
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