Comments on: EAMONN GILMORE MUZZLES TDs http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/ It's a group blog. What more do you need to know? Thu, 24 May 2012 16:57:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Unreconstructedcommie. http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76450 Unreconstructedcommie. Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:08:15 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76450 Just trying to get some figures on this goddamn debt servicing. According to the Communist Party of Ireland, the cost per working person of debt servicing in 2010 was €2,700 and now given the rise in redundancies, will be in the region of €3,000. So that would be €4.8 billion divided by aproximately 1.2 million workers and that will be each and every year and will grow with inflation. Not great prospects are they?? Just trying to get some figures on this goddamn debt servicing. According to the Communist Party of Ireland, the cost per working person of debt servicing in 2010 was €2,700 and now given the rise in redundancies, will be in the region of €3,000. So that would be €4.8 billion divided by aproximately 1.2 million workers and that will be each and every year and will grow with inflation. Not great prospects are they??

]]> By: Unreconstructedcommie. http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76449 Unreconstructedcommie. Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:11:03 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76449 Connor Mc Cabe, Why are you letting yourself down by getting vexed with Mark P. Anyone who uses the following description of organisers of a Left Unity or more correctly in this case Some Left Unity conference, “the other people involved in organising the conference, who seem like decent sincere sorts", is a dickhead, divisive and a windbag. So don't get annoyed, ignore him. If there are still progressive people within the Labour Party (and I believe there are) they are certainly not going to be interested in linking up with a broad Left campaign that contains idiots like Mark P, so the less attention he gets the better. In the meantime the critically important issue facing the Irish working class is the economically, politically and socially destructive EU/IMF 'bailout'. How the Left deal with this issue will define the prospect of an elected future Left government. The interest alone on the borrowings associated with the bailout will be so prohibitive that our country will be in hock to the EU/IMF for decades to come. Therefore the options for our people is to (1) Renegotiate the deal (a political acceptance that 'we' the people caused the problem), (2) Default on the deal (basically the same as (1) "We would if we could but right now, we can't") or (3) Repudiate the Debt "We didn't cause the problem therefore we have no moral obligation to repay and will not pay anything other than the genuine Sovereign debt. So, comrades and friends, forget the nonsense chatter about the Labour Party because if they sell out on their traditional core voters they sign their own death warrant, metaphorically speaking. Connor Mc Cabe, Why are you letting yourself down by getting vexed with Mark P. Anyone who uses the following description of organisers of a Left Unity or more correctly in this case Some Left Unity conference, “the other people involved in organising the conference, who seem like decent sincere sorts”, is a dickhead, divisive and a windbag. So don’t get annoyed, ignore him.

If there are still progressive people within the Labour Party (and I believe there are) they are certainly not going to be interested in linking up with a broad Left campaign that contains idiots like Mark P, so the less attention he gets the better.

In the meantime the critically important issue facing the Irish working class is the economically, politically and socially destructive EU/IMF ‘bailout’. How the Left deal with this issue will define the prospect of an elected future Left government.

The interest alone on the borrowings associated with the bailout will be so prohibitive that our country will be in hock to the EU/IMF for decades to come. Therefore the options for our people is to (1) Renegotiate the deal (a political acceptance that ‘we’ the people caused the problem), (2) Default on the deal (basically the same as (1) “We would if we could but right now, we can’t”) or (3) Repudiate the Debt “We didn’t cause the problem therefore we have no moral obligation to repay and will not pay anything other than the genuine Sovereign debt. So, comrades and friends, forget the nonsense chatter about the Labour Party because if they sell out on their traditional core voters they sign their own death warrant, metaphorically speaking.

]]> By: Conor McCabe http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76448 Conor McCabe Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:40:41 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76448 That's right. Cian O'Callaghan and councillor Dermot Looney are both speaking. That’s right. Cian O’Callaghan and councillor Dermot Looney are both speaking.

]]> By: LeftAtTheCross http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76447 LeftAtTheCross Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:04:42 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76447 Just saw a Tweet from Labour councillor Cian O'Callaghan saying he's speaking at the Left conference on Saturday. Just saw a Tweet from Labour councillor Cian O’Callaghan saying he’s speaking at the Left conference on Saturday.

]]> By: Michael Carley http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76435 Michael Carley Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:42:48 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76435 I had the same thought when Gordon Brown's political obituaries were written: he was a solid Labour activist, biographer of James Maxton, author of a red paper for Scotland, firebrand speaker. Did he look back over his political career and ask himself where it all went wrong? I had the same thought when Gordon Brown’s political obituaries were written: he was a solid Labour activist, biographer of James Maxton, author of a red paper for Scotland, firebrand speaker. Did he look back over his political career and ask himself where it all went wrong?

]]> By: Gaby http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76434 Gaby Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:37:45 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76434 I wonder why rank and file members of the Workers Party, formerly SFWP, formerly SF (Gardiner Place) and formerly Sinn Fein, bothered to sacrifice so many days, months and years of their bodies and brains to trying to bring about fundamental economic and social change? It wasn't all so that Eoghan Harris could gallivant around the op-ed pages of the right-leaning Sunday Independent surely? Or so that the remnant of Democratic Left could embed themselves deeply in the Labour Party and become more respectable than the existing South Dublin respectables themselves? Whatever did the bespoke-tailored Dail deputies now vetoing platform sharing dialogue with Irish Left Alliance (an alliance not a party) think they were aiming at in those intensive days thirty or forty years ago, when they considered themselves to be on the radical left of Irish politics? I wonder why rank and file members of the Workers Party, formerly SFWP, formerly SF (Gardiner Place) and formerly Sinn Fein, bothered to sacrifice so many days, months and years of their bodies and brains to trying to bring about fundamental economic and social change? It wasn’t all so that Eoghan Harris could gallivant around the op-ed pages of the right-leaning Sunday Independent surely? Or so that the remnant of Democratic Left could embed themselves deeply in the Labour Party and become more respectable than the existing South Dublin respectables themselves? Whatever did the bespoke-tailored Dail deputies now vetoing platform sharing dialogue with Irish Left Alliance (an alliance not a party) think they were aiming at in those intensive days thirty or forty years ago, when they considered themselves to be on the radical left of Irish politics?

]]> By: Donagh http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76433 Donagh Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:18:56 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76433 Hi Jenny, yes there is. He's the one using the language. Hi Jenny, yes there is. He’s the one using the language.

]]> By: Carnival of Socialism | The Great Unrest http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76432 Carnival of Socialism | The Great Unrest Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:14:24 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76432 [...] to go by. A Fine Gael/Labour coalition seems likely, and the Labour leadership is criticised here for not countenencing a coalition with Sinn Fein and the [...] […] to go by. A Fine Gael/Labour coalition seems likely, and the Labour leadership is criticised here for not countenencing a coalition with Sinn Fein and the […]

]]> By: Jenny http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76431 Jenny Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:13:47 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76431 Interesting and important discussion marred by the language. No moderation on this site? Interesting and important discussion marred by the language. No moderation on this site?

]]> By: Conor McCabe http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76430 Conor McCabe Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:38:33 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2011/01/31/eamonn-gilmore-muzzles-tds/#comment-76430 Trying to take the high moral ground? What a smug little cunt. Trying to take the high moral ground?

What a smug little cunt.

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