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	<title>Comments on: GERALDINE KENNEDY, 2006: GERMANY MUST FOLLOW IRELAND&#8217;S LEAD; THE STUDENT HAS NOW BECOME THE MASTER</title>
	<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/</link>
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		<title>By: LeftAtTheCross</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74325</link>
		<author>LeftAtTheCross</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And on Pat Kenny this morning, why now is a good time to "trade up in the property market". Yep, great time to go into massive long-term debt, with diminishing job security, rising unemployment, falling wages, rising taxes. As McWilliams points out, the similarities of the money pushers to drug pushers...but the former are respectable of course, that's one important difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on Pat Kenny this morning, why now is a good time to &#8220;trade up in the property market&#8221;. Yep, great time to go into massive long-term debt, with diminishing job security, rising unemployment, falling wages, rising taxes. As McWilliams points out, the similarities of the money pushers to drug pushers&#8230;but the former are respectable of course, that&#8217;s one important difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Moloney</title>
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		<author>Paul Moloney</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the Irish Times - the same paper that spent an absolute fortune buying up property websites at the height of the bubble (which obviously mens they've now lost an absolute fortune). Between that and the fact that 70% of their advertising revenue came from property, it's no wonder they wanted to believe the bubble had a rational basis.

P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the Irish Times - the same paper that spent an absolute fortune buying up property websites at the height of the bubble (which obviously mens they&#8217;ve now lost an absolute fortune). Between that and the fact that 70% of their advertising revenue came from property, it&#8217;s no wonder they wanted to believe the bubble had a rational basis.</p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: Cass Flower</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74322</link>
		<author>Cass Flower</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomboktu - along similar lines, ang at Political World has started assembling a media links directory on Anglo Irish as a trial.  Not on view yet, but will be soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomboktu - along similar lines, ang at Political World has started assembling a media links directory on Anglo Irish as a trial.  Not on view yet, but will be soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Cass Flower</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74321</link>
		<author>Cass Flower</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 08:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  D. McWilliams is not all wrong on this.  Hot money looking for easy profits in the "Tiger economy" was essential to events.
No point in self-flagellation to the exclusion of analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  D. McWilliams is not all wrong on this.  Hot money looking for easy profits in the &#8220;Tiger economy&#8221; was essential to events.<br />
No point in self-flagellation to the exclusion of analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Green</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74293</link>
		<author>Hugh Green</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then I'll take a stab at putting together a template with a list of fields to be used, and circulate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I&#8217;ll take a stab at putting together a template with a list of fields to be used, and circulate.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor McCabe</title>
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		<author>Conor McCabe</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Green</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74270</link>
		<author>Hugh Green</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Tomboktu's suggestion on reporting of economics: if no one individual has the time, or the economics background, to do it, why not set up a google doc where people can add the relevant info? You could have a variety of fields: date, title, link, author, focus, section (business, opinion, celebrity etc) summary, economic measurements referenced, statistical sources referenced, sources cited as authorities. You could easily get a wealth of data from that, if you kept it up for a few months....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tomboktu&#8217;s suggestion on reporting of economics: if no one individual has the time, or the economics background, to do it, why not set up a google doc where people can add the relevant info? You could have a variety of fields: date, title, link, author, focus, section (business, opinion, celebrity etc) summary, economic measurements referenced, statistical sources referenced, sources cited as authorities. You could easily get a wealth of data from that, if you kept it up for a few months&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomboktu</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74269</link>
		<author>Tomboktu</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the start of the year, I briefly toyed with the idea of doing a monthly 'sibling' to Garibaldy's Sunday "Stupid Statement" column on &lt;a href="http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Cedar Lounge Revolution&lt;/a&gt;. It would have been a running count of the op-ed pieces on economic issues published by the Irish Times and Irish Independent.

My motivation was the frustration that the likes of Michael Taft (or any of the other speakers at the TASC conference last October, or Paul Sweeney, etc.) is not a regular columnist (at least, in the Times -- I don't check the Independent regularly). A response to an individual article by any of their current stable simply legitimises their overall policy on economic commentary. The Times (at least) likes to think of itself as balanced, and it seemed to me that a regular -- persistent, even -- analysis showing the imbalance might provide the evidence for some shift.

(I realised that project would not be one I could do: I don't have enough economics to analyse the articles.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the start of the year, I briefly toyed with the idea of doing a monthly &#8217;sibling&#8217; to Garibaldy&#8217;s Sunday &#8220;Stupid Statement&#8221; column on <a href="http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">Cedar Lounge Revolution</a>. It would have been a running count of the op-ed pieces on economic issues published by the Irish Times and Irish Independent.</p>
<p>My motivation was the frustration that the likes of Michael Taft (or any of the other speakers at the TASC conference last October, or Paul Sweeney, etc.) is not a regular columnist (at least, in the Times &#8212; I don&#8217;t check the Independent regularly). A response to an individual article by any of their current stable simply legitimises their overall policy on economic commentary. The Times (at least) likes to think of itself as balanced, and it seemed to me that a regular &#8212; persistent, even &#8212; analysis showing the imbalance might provide the evidence for some shift.</p>
<p>(I realised that project would not be one I could do: I don&#8217;t have enough economics to analyse the articles.)</p>
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		<title>By: LeftAtTheCross</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2010/08/17/geraldine-kennedy-2006-germany-must-follow-irelands-lead-for-the-student-has-now-become-the-master/#comment-74257</link>
		<author>LeftAtTheCross</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CMK, I'm more looking forward to the day that it has a regime change and the editorial pendulum swings leftwards. Won't be holding my breath all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMK, I&#8217;m more looking forward to the day that it has a regime change and the editorial pendulum swings leftwards. Won&#8217;t be holding my breath all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: CMK</title>
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		<author>CMK</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left at the Cross,

I don't read the papers seriously anymore. Browse the free parts of the IT and maybe buy a copy of Sunday Tribune once in a blue moon.

But I feel its like the Victorian pastime of going to see the patients at Bedlam for amusement. It's the sort of think that civilised people should try to wean themselves away from. 

I mean its painful and pitiful to see, in article after article, the extent to which Irish journalists don't realise that if you make factual claim 'X' the reader can google things and within a couple of minutes be able to verify it. Or that most of them rarely seem to basically contextualise factual claims. Having followed the debates on the minimum wage and social welfare payments over the past two years, the degeneracy of Irish journalism is clear to any rational being. 

Do they not realise that the internet and availability of information demands that they raise their game and not think that its enough to belt out golf-club cliches as serious economic and political analysis. 

I'm genuinely looking forward to the day when the IT goes under.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left at the Cross,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t read the papers seriously anymore. Browse the free parts of the IT and maybe buy a copy of Sunday Tribune once in a blue moon.</p>
<p>But I feel its like the Victorian pastime of going to see the patients at Bedlam for amusement. It&#8217;s the sort of think that civilised people should try to wean themselves away from. </p>
<p>I mean its painful and pitiful to see, in article after article, the extent to which Irish journalists don&#8217;t realise that if you make factual claim &#8216;X&#8217; the reader can google things and within a couple of minutes be able to verify it. Or that most of them rarely seem to basically contextualise factual claims. Having followed the debates on the minimum wage and social welfare payments over the past two years, the degeneracy of Irish journalism is clear to any rational being. </p>
<p>Do they not realise that the internet and availability of information demands that they raise their game and not think that its enough to belt out golf-club cliches as serious economic and political analysis. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m genuinely looking forward to the day when the IT goes under.</p>
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