Comments on: BEDSITS OF DUBLIN http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/ It's a group blog. What more do you need to know? Thu, 24 May 2012 07:56:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Al http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-77721 Al Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:13:15 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-77721 To be honest, I'd love if this sort of place was available abundantly and cheaply, so I'd at least have somewhere to start. Serious lack of opportunities these days if looking to rent somewhere. May not be able to take up an internship I've accepted up here. Would prefer somewhere like this than to have to celebrate my 30th birthday under parental authority :-) And indeed better to have somewhere like this than be on the street. They are, however, shit. To be honest, I’d love if this sort of place was available abundantly and cheaply, so I’d at least have somewhere to start. Serious lack of opportunities these days if looking to rent somewhere. May not be able to take up an internship I’ve accepted up here.

Would prefer somewhere like this than to have to celebrate my 30th birthday under parental authority :-)

And indeed better to have somewhere like this than be on the street.

They are, however, shit.

]]> By: Marion http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72854 Marion Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:08:08 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72854 Maybe a new 'Seed' Bank should be licensed. A bank targeted at 16 year olds and upwards. A bank that ONLY gives ONE MORTGAGE PER PERSON/COUPLE, per lifetime, (and this could be written into its Articles of Association), i.e. that does NOT give loans for second houses/holiday homes/buy-to-let properties (as, strictly speaking, especially the latter, are commercial loans). At least it might help the poorer younger people to by-pass these awful (profit) places. Maybe a new ‘Seed’ Bank should be licensed. A bank targeted at 16 year olds and upwards. A bank that ONLY gives ONE MORTGAGE PER PERSON/COUPLE, per lifetime, (and this could be written into its Articles of Association), i.e. that does NOT give loans for second houses/holiday homes/buy-to-let properties (as, strictly speaking, especially the latter, are commercial loans).
At least it might help the poorer younger people to by-pass these awful (profit) places.

]]> By: Lee http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72679 Lee Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:55:58 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72679 LOOK at : www.PRTB.ie/pubregister.htm (on map, click on the area you may be concerned about). Or, the long way round, : www.PRTB.ie , then in 'Search' facility, type in : Published Register : then that will bring you to the map of the Published Register of Private Residential Tenancies. Hmmmm, quite 'Newspeak' that ? 'Private' AND 'Tenancies'. Maybe it is time a comedy (tragedy) series was made like 'Father Ted', called 'Landlord Ted'. The old Landlordism is now : Assetism. For all that we, the Irish, moan (and in the past) about 'dominion' over our land/people; we sure are gung-ho to reap fruition/rent from our neighbour, and his children. As, if we keep depending on 20 year economic 'cycles'; many of these children will be caught in the dips and NEVRR own their own (decent) home. LOOK at : www.PRTB.ie/pubregister.htm (on map, click on the area you may be concerned about).
Or, the long way round, : www.PRTB.ie , then in ‘Search’ facility, type in : Published Register : then that will bring you to the map of the Published Register of Private Residential Tenancies.
Hmmmm, quite ‘Newspeak’ that ? ‘Private’ AND ‘Tenancies’.
Maybe it is time a comedy (tragedy) series was made like ‘Father Ted’, called ‘Landlord Ted’.
The old Landlordism is now : Assetism.
For all that we, the Irish, moan (and in the past) about ‘dominion’ over our land/people; we sure are gung-ho to reap fruition/rent from our neighbour, and his children.
As, if we keep depending on 20 year economic ‘cycles’; many of these children will be caught in the dips and NEVRR own their own (decent) home.

]]> By: Sean Baite http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72675 Sean Baite Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:58:05 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72675 <i>I was quite literally saved one evening by Seán Báite when he showed up with his brother and they bundled all my stuff into the back of a van</i> Not sure you were 'saved' Conor - as we moved you into a room that was only slightly larger than a cupboard in a flat where you could never see the floor due to all of Valérie & Aoife's crap all over it :-( AT least it was within walking distance of Slatterys in Rathmines. I'll pay for it later in Hell, I'm sure. Well I'm already paying with the slipped disk I got from shifting your homebrew equipment :-) Sad to see not much has changed in the 15 years since. Always remember that Finnish bloke I once ran into complaining about the standard of work done on grotty bedsits by Dublin landlords which he reckoned was about up to the standards of a ten year old. Unfortunately, the rent calculations aren't done by ten year olds. I was quite literally saved one evening by Seán Báite when he showed up with his brother and they bundled all my stuff into the back of a van
Not sure you were ’saved’ Conor - as we moved you into a room that was only slightly larger than a cupboard in a flat where you could never see the floor due to all of Valérie & Aoife’s crap all over it :-( AT least it was within walking distance of Slatterys in Rathmines.
I’ll pay for it later in Hell, I’m sure. Well I’m already paying with the slipped disk I got from shifting your homebrew equipment :-)
Sad to see not much has changed in the 15 years since. Always remember that Finnish bloke I once ran into complaining about the standard of work done on grotty bedsits by Dublin landlords which he reckoned was about up to the standards of a ten year old.
Unfortunately, the rent calculations aren’t done by ten year olds.

]]> By: Anna http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72672 Anna Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:20:21 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72672 One will have to go to Bolivarian Venezuela, even the families from the slums get new houses there :) Seriously, the housing situation here is horrible. I don't think I should go to charity while I keep on working in those corporations, now that would be ridiculous, wouldn't it? Sharing, sure, but you will be tired of it after a while,especialy if you are not 20y anymore. And no, its not cheap either, with a deposit it can easily take halfofyour salary and then you are f..ed for the whole month :/ One will have to go to Bolivarian Venezuela, even the families from the slums get new houses there :)

Seriously, the housing situation here is horrible. I don’t think I should go to charity while I keep on working in those corporations, now that would be ridiculous, wouldn’t it? Sharing, sure, but you will be tired of it after a while,especialy if you are not 20y anymore. And no, its not cheap either, with a deposit it can easily take halfofyour salary and then you are f..ed for the whole month :/

]]> By: Lee http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72657 Lee Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:42:34 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72657 I think in Dublin there are some very small housing associations now ('Daisyhouse' etc.) that appropriate individual houses in these so very central, areas. They may be following the way of London housing associations - who, in some central London areas, are operating this way. Also, in New York, - would buildings like these - maybe be 'rent control' ? - I don't have the figures to hand, but at www.HUD.org (U.S.) website, the figures of 'rent control' in Manhattan are quite amazing. But that does not help the problem either; the 'rent' still goes to ...... landlords. The issue of a 'Rent Book' needs to be stressed more ? i.e. that someone has consistently paid rent; could this be considered a kind of credit? asset? I dunno. But instead of the poor considering it as 'dead money', it should maybe be approached as credible probity ? http://www.saveourhomes.org/ http://www.prtb.ie/PubregisterJune2008/ I think in Dublin there are some very small housing associations now (’Daisyhouse’ etc.) that appropriate individual houses in these so very central, areas. They may be following the way of London housing associations - who, in some central London areas, are operating this way. Also, in New York, - would buildings like these - maybe be ‘rent control’ ? - I don’t have the figures to hand, but at www.HUD.org (U.S.) website, the figures of ‘rent control’ in Manhattan are quite amazing. But that does not help the problem either; the ‘rent’ still goes to …… landlords.
The issue of a ‘Rent Book’ needs to be stressed more ? i.e. that someone has consistently paid rent; could this be considered a kind of credit? asset? I dunno. But instead of the poor considering it as ‘dead money’, it should maybe be approached as credible probity ?
http://www.saveourhomes.org/
http://www.prtb.ie/PubregisterJune2008/

]]> By: Conor McCabe http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72654 Conor McCabe Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:33:21 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72654 Go for a house-share, Beth. Cheap and cheerful until you find your feet. Stay away from the bedsits, though. Aint worth the anguish. Go for a house-share, Beth. Cheap and cheerful until you find your feet. Stay away from the bedsits, though. Aint worth the anguish.

]]> By: Jim Monaghan http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72653 Jim Monaghan Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:13:51 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72653 I am reminded that teh work of the DHAC and Dennis Dennehy is not complete. I am reminded that teh work of the DHAC and Dennis Dennehy is not complete.

]]> By: Beth http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72651 Beth Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:00:23 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72651 Oh God! I am thinking of moving to Dublin from England and was just perusing the bedsits for somewhere to live when I came across this article. Its put me right off and scared me to death (suicide boxes :-)!!!) Oh God! I am thinking of moving to Dublin from England and was just perusing the bedsits for somewhere to live when I came across this article. Its put me right off and scared me to death (suicide boxes :-)!!!)

]]> By: Lee http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72636 Lee Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:15:47 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2010/03/30/bedsits-of-dublin/#comment-72636 The Civil War 1922, (and 1916) all those big grand houses were owned by v.v.well-to-do; then many became atrocious housing for the poor (Juno and the Paycock, etc.). The strategy however, is way more devious than that ? Mantra-like, from that time, and before, ? banks and these moneyed owners, would know that it is in their interests to be derisory about the poor, unskilled, single. There is also the extremely important factor of 'class'. Many poor people did (do) have some (misplaced?) pride; and the area/address they do consider; - This has been the real boon to these grimy landlords and they would/might even be on the local council ? - and council housing would be placed away, away, from any familiar parishes. And the poor did not realise that the councils may have been overseen by ............ private landlords ? Then maybe in 1940's there was a population drive? so the landlords' justification for these places was "it's better they do not stay single anyway, and I'm really being patriotic by keeping the places awful". Now it is; keep people moving from one bleary dreary cardboard walled place, to the next bleary dreary cardboard walled place. But - always rented. The Civil War 1922, (and 1916) all those big grand houses were owned by v.v.well-to-do; then many became atrocious housing for the poor (Juno and the Paycock, etc.).
The strategy however, is way more devious than that ?
Mantra-like, from that time, and before, ? banks and these moneyed owners, would know that it is in their interests to be derisory about the poor, unskilled, single. There is also the extremely important factor of ‘class’. Many poor people did (do) have some (misplaced?) pride; and the area/address they do consider; - This has been the real boon to these grimy landlords and they would/might even be on the local council ? - and council housing would be placed away, away, from any familiar parishes. And the poor did not realise that the councils may have been overseen by ………… private landlords ?
Then maybe in 1940’s there was a population drive? so the landlords’ justification for these places was “it’s better they do not stay single anyway, and I’m really being patriotic by keeping the places awful”.
Now it is; keep people moving from one bleary dreary cardboard walled place, to the next bleary dreary cardboard walled place.
But - always rented.

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