Comments on: NO MORE APOLOGIES http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/ It's a group blog. What more do you need to know? Wed, 23 May 2012 14:13:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: ec http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70827 ec Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:25:37 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70827 Something is going on in the bowels of the land when you hear George Hook telling his audience to 'Google 1968'. Something is going on in the bowels of the land when you hear George Hook telling his audience to ‘Google 1968′.

]]> By: WorldbyStorm http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70825 WorldbyStorm Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:17:07 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70825 Definitely. Sums it up completely. And the Fast Show clip too. Definitely. Sums it up completely. And the Fast Show clip too.

]]> By: Garibaldy http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70824 Garibaldy Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:55:54 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70824 Spot on Conor. Spot on Conor.

]]> By: Conor McCabe http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70823 Conor McCabe Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:30:59 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70823 I was saying to a friend the other day that NAMA is something that both the trade unions and the small business association could work together in opposing - as it will lacerate the membership of both organisations. NAMA will not help any business based on production and selling. It will benefit bankers and speculators, who don't make anything. I was saying to a friend the other day that NAMA is something that both the trade unions and the small business association could work together in opposing - as it will lacerate the membership of both organisations. NAMA will not help any business based on production and selling. It will benefit bankers and speculators, who don’t make anything.

]]> By: sonofstan http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70821 sonofstan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:17:40 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70821 Opponents of Lisbon - of which I am not one - have been supporting the notion that the issue is so important it doesn't matter is COIR/ YD and other right wing loopers are on your side: well I feel the same about NAMA - it needs to be stopped, it's the one of the biggest, and potentially one of the worst decisions in the history of the state, and it's been made a government with almost no support except from the very people who stand to make from this outrageous scam. You're damn right about resisting the moralisation of this story: it's not about repentance or atonement, and the very people telling this story are the ones who wish to get away with hijack of the nation, against the interests of nearly all of us. The morals trap works this way as well: most of us are honest, reasonably hard working, we tend to trust rather than not: and thus we find it hard to believe that those that rule us, and presume to lecture us about our duty in the matter of sharing the pain, are really an even worse shower of self-interested bastards than they look in the worst possible light. As always, Proudhon's dictum about 'he who invokes humanity (or 'sharing' or 'the national interest') intends to cheat' must be cleaved to. They're out to get us. Opponents of Lisbon - of which I am not one - have been supporting the notion that the issue is so important it doesn’t matter is COIR/ YD and other right wing loopers are on your side: well I feel the same about NAMA - it needs to be stopped, it’s the one of the biggest, and potentially one of the worst decisions in the history of the state, and it’s been made a government with almost no support except from the very people who stand to make from this outrageous scam.

You’re damn right about resisting the moralisation of this story: it’s not about repentance or atonement, and the very people telling this story are the ones who wish to get away with hijack of the nation, against the interests of nearly all of us.

The morals trap works this way as well: most of us are honest, reasonably hard working, we tend to trust rather than not: and thus we find it hard to believe that those that rule us, and presume to lecture us about our duty in the matter of sharing the pain, are really an even worse shower of self-interested bastards than they look in the worst possible light. As always, Proudhon’s dictum about ‘he who invokes humanity (or ’sharing’ or ‘the national interest’) intends to cheat’ must be cleaved to. They’re out to get us.

]]> By: Eoin O'Mahony http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70820 Eoin O'Mahony Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:17:46 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2009/09/08/no-more-apologies/#comment-70820 "This isn’t about the State at a 12-step meeting, standing up in a semi-circle of plastic chairs and Styrofoam cups..." I read this, laughed and thought of Jinx Lennon. This is a great post. We have a group of people governing us who believe that only they hold the answer to "getting us back" to 'stability'. Listening to that Cork developer on the radio this morning exhorting that NAMA won't work without developers made me think that this whole sorry mess will collapse in the next week or so. Everyone wants in, no one wants to ask why. “This isn’t about the State at a 12-step meeting, standing up in a semi-circle of plastic chairs and Styrofoam cups…” I read this, laughed and thought of Jinx Lennon.

This is a great post. We have a group of people governing us who believe that only they hold the answer to “getting us back” to ’stability’. Listening to that Cork developer on the radio this morning exhorting that NAMA won’t work without developers made me think that this whole sorry mess will collapse in the next week or so. Everyone wants in, no one wants to ask why.

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