Comments on: Mark E. Smith: Romane Totale in Reverse? http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/ It's a group blog. What more do you need to know? Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:38:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Seán Báite http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66216 Seán Báite Tue, 20 May 2008 07:08:20 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66216 Don't worry Kevin, I was following your train of thought alright. In fact as I remember the 2 of them (JCC & The Fall) were both on the same seminal compilation EP / LP 'Live at the Electric Circus' from around 1978 (correct me if I'm wrong). In the case of the Fall, I think it's some of their very first material released on record. (is it 'Stepping Out' and another track I can't recall ?) Good luck for the exams in any case... Don’t worry Kevin, I was following your train of thought alright. In fact as I remember the 2 of them (JCC & The Fall) were both on the same seminal compilation EP / LP ‘Live at the Electric Circus’ from around 1978 (correct me if I’m wrong). In the case of the Fall, I think it’s some of their very first material released on record. (is it ‘Stepping Out’ and another track I can’t recall ?)
Good luck for the exams in any case…

]]> By: Kevin http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66208 Kevin Mon, 19 May 2008 21:27:54 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66208 I said it not because of the shellsuit thread of the discussion, but that general post-punk theme. Watched 24 Hour Party People the other day. Noticed Mark E. Smith in the background. Made the link. Didn't get along, in the end, though. Exams abound. Been locked up in a room with the books and the criticism for a few weeks now. But my flatmate organised it. Said it went quite well. Certainly sold well. I said it not because of the shellsuit thread of the discussion, but that general post-punk theme. Watched 24 Hour Party People the other day. Noticed Mark E. Smith in the background. Made the link. Didn’t get along, in the end, though. Exams abound. Been locked up in a room with the books and the criticism for a few weeks now. But my flatmate organised it. Said it went quite well. Certainly sold well.

]]> By: Seán Báite http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66188 Seán Báite Mon, 19 May 2008 08:31:49 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66188 What d'ya mean Kevin ? - JCC is always impeccably turned out - in a nice black suit... Couldn't imagine him anywhere near a shellsuit. Did ye get along ? And has there been a nipple in the Daily Mail, after all these years ?? What d’ya mean Kevin ? - JCC is always impeccably turned out - in a nice black suit…
Couldn’t imagine him anywhere near a shellsuit.
Did ye get along ? And has there been a nipple in the Daily Mail, after all these years ??

]]> By: Donagh http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66075 Donagh Fri, 16 May 2008 13:25:38 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66075 Yep, well maybe the occasion when I suggested that it was one of my favourites and receiving a dismissive snarl got it into my head that it's considered less than their best. It's high production values apparently is the thing that knocks it off the best of list. An obese shellsuit wearers convention in Donaghmede Shopping Centre perhaps. Thanks for that Kevin. Vaguely noted, as I probably won't be able to make it along. Yep, well maybe the occasion when I suggested that it was one of my favourites and receiving a dismissive snarl got it into my head that it’s considered less than their best. It’s high production values apparently is the thing that knocks it off the best of list.

An obese shellsuit wearers convention in Donaghmede Shopping Centre perhaps.

Thanks for that Kevin. Vaguely noted, as I probably won’t be able to make it along.

]]> By: Kevin http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66073 Kevin Fri, 16 May 2008 11:26:10 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66073 On a vaguely related note, John Cooper Clarke is playing Crawdaddy tonight. On a vaguely related note, John Cooper Clarke is playing Crawdaddy tonight.

]]> By: Seán Báite http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66066 Seán Báite Fri, 16 May 2008 06:51:55 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66066 Lots of not-so-dainty females dressed as if for an obese shellsuit wearers convention though..... Lots of not-so-dainty females dressed as if for an obese shellsuit wearers convention though…..

]]> By: Seán Báite http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66065 Seán Báite Fri, 16 May 2008 06:50:48 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66065 That's the great thing about the majority vote - cos I effin' love 'Extricate'. I suppose it was around the time they were flirting with majors and even getting some promo budgets off the shaggers - maybe that's what the "many Fall fans" resent... Isn't also his post break-up LP ? I reckon seeing your missus shag off with that t**t Nigel Kennedy did wonders for the irascibility levels. Wheezing, sneezing, pasted - yes - but ne'er a dainty female dressed as if for riding school to be found - couldn't find the right ad in the Northside People's personals.... That’s the great thing about the majority vote - cos I effin’ love ‘Extricate’. I suppose it was around the time they were flirting with majors and even getting some promo budgets off the shaggers - maybe that’s what the “many Fall fans” resent…
Isn’t also his post break-up LP ? I reckon seeing your missus shag off with that t**t Nigel Kennedy did wonders for the irascibility levels.

Wheezing, sneezing, pasted - yes - but ne’er a dainty female dressed as if for riding school to be found - couldn’t find the right ad in the Northside People’s personals….

]]> By: Donagh http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66049 Donagh Thu, 15 May 2008 14:04:40 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66049 Going by an earlier, and much celebrated K-punk take on the Fall, in his opinion their high point was around Hex Induction Hour and little else beyond that. I don't hold with that myself. His lowest point, in the eyes of many Fall fans seems to have been in the late 80s, around the time of Extricate. It must have been those apperances on the Tube with Mark and Brix as the golden couple of British Alternative Rock. Well, perhaps not golden, more like tarnished brass. It was the beginning of the time when the irascible Mark became a bit of media personality, as opposed to maverick outsider and as he has admitted himself, he does camp it up. All said of course, he's still way more credible than most of his contemporarys. Have to you been wheezing, sneezing? While back in Dublin you did mention though that you got pasted in a bar, on more than one occasion. Going by an earlier, and much celebrated K-punk take on the Fall, in his opinion their high point was around Hex Induction Hour and little else beyond that. I don’t hold with that myself. His lowest point, in the eyes of many Fall fans seems to have been in the late 80s, around the time of Extricate. It must have been those apperances on the Tube with Mark and Brix as the golden couple of British Alternative Rock. Well, perhaps not golden, more like tarnished brass. It was the beginning of the time when the irascible Mark became a bit of media personality, as opposed to maverick outsider and as he has admitted himself, he does camp it up.

All said of course, he’s still way more credible than most of his contemporarys.

Have to you been wheezing, sneezing? While back in Dublin you did mention though that you got pasted in a bar, on more than one occasion.

]]> By: Seán Báite http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66047 Seán Báite Thu, 15 May 2008 09:41:44 +0000 http://dublinopinion.com/2008/05/14/mark-e-smith-romane-totale-in-reverse/#comment-66047 Whatever about the licences he currently holds, in K-Punk's opinion, MES certainly appears to me to be the ex 76/77 punk to have fallen off the least from his standards of the time - even if he looks in interview uncannily like some aul' lad from down the local - albeit a very eloquent one... Will try to post you up something in the near future - as soon as I've finished emerging from a 'Bill is Dead' couple of weeks... Whatever about the licences he currently holds, in K-Punk’s opinion, MES certainly appears to me to be the ex 76/77 punk to have fallen off the least from his standards of the time - even if he looks in interview uncannily like some aul’ lad from down the local - albeit a very eloquent one…
Will try to post you up something in the near future - as soon as I’ve finished emerging from a ‘Bill is Dead’ couple of weeks…

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