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	<title>Comments on: PUDDING FOR BERTIE AS FF EATS ITS GREENS</title>
	<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/</link>
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		<title>By: Donagh</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21716</link>
		<author>Donagh</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, brilliant article Conor. 

In my capacity as devil advocate, thinking, erroneously, that its just too easy to take the unmerciful piss out of the Greens for this deal, I keep on trying to think of something (anything!) positive in this turn of events - and I can't find one. And I've tried. 

I knew one of the Green TDs years ago, in a professional capacity. It actually pains me physically to see their face on the TV so much these days. Much has been said about Trev's integrity in standing down as leader, which makes me laugh out loud everytime I hear it said. Why did he make the promise in the first place? He sells out every principle that his party is supposed to hold dear, gone back on every promise they made in their election campaign and they say he's got integrity? But don't the Green's not really believe in a Party Leader in the first place?!

Any way, from my experience of this Green TD (in ain't Trev) - I should have guessed that they would be capable of this. I'm not angry at the Greens for doing the deal by way. As others have said here, it just goes to prove what I always suspected of the organisation (and knew in the case of this one TD): they are just profoundly middle class. 

Can I also say Conor, that you've written many funny things for this blog, but the line &lt;i&gt;It is simply not possible to collaborate with a national construction policy that is skewered in favour of the construction industry - and not the stateâ€™s citizens - and call yourself left-wing or liberal simply because you cycle to the spot where you fuck people in the ass.&lt;/i&gt; has to be one that has made me laugh the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, brilliant article Conor. </p>
<p>In my capacity as devil advocate, thinking, erroneously, that its just too easy to take the unmerciful piss out of the Greens for this deal, I keep on trying to think of something (anything!) positive in this turn of events - and I can&#8217;t find one. And I&#8217;ve tried. </p>
<p>I knew one of the Green TDs years ago, in a professional capacity. It actually pains me physically to see their face on the TV so much these days. Much has been said about Trev&#8217;s integrity in standing down as leader, which makes me laugh out loud everytime I hear it said. Why did he make the promise in the first place? He sells out every principle that his party is supposed to hold dear, gone back on every promise they made in their election campaign and they say he&#8217;s got integrity? But don&#8217;t the Green&#8217;s not really believe in a Party Leader in the first place?!</p>
<p>Any way, from my experience of this Green TD (in ain&#8217;t Trev) - I should have guessed that they would be capable of this. I&#8217;m not angry at the Greens for doing the deal by way. As others have said here, it just goes to prove what I always suspected of the organisation (and knew in the case of this one TD): they are just profoundly middle class. </p>
<p>Can I also say Conor, that you&#8217;ve written many funny things for this blog, but the line <i>It is simply not possible to collaborate with a national construction policy that is skewered in favour of the construction industry - and not the stateâ€™s citizens - and call yourself left-wing or liberal simply because you cycle to the spot where you fuck people in the ass.</i> has to be one that has made me laugh the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor McCabe</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21715</link>
		<author>Conor McCabe</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, sonofstan. couldn't put it better myself. what a shower of middle-class twats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, sonofstan. couldn&#8217;t put it better myself. what a shower of middle-class twats.</p>
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		<title>By: sonofstan</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21709</link>
		<author>sonofstan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Cuffe and Ryan in particular over the last few days has been like watching recently graduated student 'radicals' rushing to embrace the 'real world' as exemplified by the cushy job in Daddy's company; Cuffe revealingly used a raft of business metaphors to describe the pact - like all of their class, they see exchange as the template for all relations, principle and policy as tokens of that exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Cuffe and Ryan in particular over the last few days has been like watching recently graduated student &#8216;radicals&#8217; rushing to embrace the &#8216;real world&#8217; as exemplified by the cushy job in Daddy&#8217;s company; Cuffe revealingly used a raft of business metaphors to describe the pact - like all of their class, they see exchange as the template for all relations, principle and policy as tokens of that exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor McCabe</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21622</link>
		<author>Conor McCabe</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21622</guid>
		<description>Or the most greenhorn greens...
Either way, the speed with which they dropped their mandate (however small) in order to - I was going to say prop up Bertie, but they're not even doing that - in order to leave opposition and co-exist with the PDs, Michael Lowry, Jackie Healy-Rae, and Beverly Cheesy grin, in order to get a grant for loft insulation, shows their true conservative middle-class bay windows ambition.

They're Green alright - even their policies are bio-degradable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or the most greenhorn greens&#8230;<br />
Either way, the speed with which they dropped their mandate (however small) in order to - I was going to say prop up Bertie, but they&#8217;re not even doing that - in order to leave opposition and co-exist with the PDs, Michael Lowry, Jackie Healy-Rae, and Beverly Cheesy grin, in order to get a grant for loft insulation, shows their true conservative middle-class bay windows ambition.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re Green alright - even their policies are bio-degradable.</p>
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		<title>By: WorldbyStorm</title>
		<link>http://dublinopinion.com/2007/06/15/pudding-for-bertie-as-ff-eats-its-greens/#comment-21619</link>
		<author>WorldbyStorm</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conor, it's not so much that they're the most right wing Greens, as the least Green Greens in the world. Emasculated at the start...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conor, it&#8217;s not so much that they&#8217;re the most right wing Greens, as the least Green Greens in the world. Emasculated at the start&#8230;</p>
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